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Intermediate Guitar Lesson – Visualizing Pentatonic Scales Pt.2

In Intermediate Guitar Lessons | on December, 16, 2009 | by | 9 Comments

This lesson continues our study of pentatonic scales and how to see them across the neck.

You may feel that you need to work on your knowledge of major keys a little bit more if you can’t find the exact placement of each individual tone in a key (ie. 4th, 5th etc.).

Don’t worry about this, it comes just by working with it and doing your best to understand the system. You will notice very quickly (probably within a few weeks), that you feel very comfortable with all of the keys and each individual note’s placement in them.

I am also going to do a series in the Advanced Guitar Section that shows how to visualize 3-notes per string Major Scales across the neck. I recommend you checking that out as well because visualizing 3-notes per string scales using this system is actually easier to do with major scales than with pentatonics, even though the scale forms themselves are a little harder to play. You will see what I mean if you study those lesson’s as well.

Take your time with this method and let your mind absorb everything that is going on and just trust the process. Whatever you do, do not get frustrated!!

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Visualizing Pentatonic Scales Pt.2

9 Responses

12.16.09

Hi Carl,

You’ve mentioned minor pentatonics and I wonder if you have a lesson dedicated to them. I play a good bit of blues and notice the minor scales work well with the old I IV V patterns. Are there any particular lessons I should look for to learn more about them? Also interested in learning more about modes.

Regards,

Hugh Sanderford
Winston Salem, NC

12.16.09

Hey Hugh, thanks for watching my lessons. Glad to hear from someone in the triad area, I was born and raised in Greensboro and lived there until I was 25. In fact, I was just at Bowman Gray stadium this summer catching some races with my Dad.

To answer your question about minor pentatonics you will see that most of my scale lessons revolve around the major pentatonic and major scales. The minor pentatonic is the exact same scale as the major pentatonic, it is just the relative minor of the major pentatonic scale.

In my theory lesson on “Understanding Minor Scales” I talk about relating all minor scales to their relative major and then just visualizing them as major. The reason for this is to have consistency in how you visualize scales across the neck. If we had different patterns for all scale types we can play on the guitar things can get quite confusing. So instead what I choose to do is relate every scale back to its parent major scale when dealing with modes, and its relative major scale when dealing with minor pentatonic scales. That way, I only have to visualize one scale type no matter how many scales I am playing.

Hope this makes since, in order to do this visualization method you just need a solid grasp of the music theory behind it. If you check out the music theory section of the Lesson Archives page you can read a lot of tutorials that explain this type of thinking. Then you can just watch the visualizing major scales, and modes lessons after that to apply that theory.

Good Luck!! Carl :D

12.16.09

Hi Carl,
I think you answered my questions already with the start of part 2!
Regards,

Padraic.
Dublin

12.16.09

There it is….didn’t see this before I commented on the last one :)

12.16.09

This is exactly what I need to be learning at this point. Can you break it down a little more or even put a written lesson up about this. This is awesome.

12.16.09

Awesome info, Thanks!

12.16.09

Great method!

12.16.09

Hallo, Carl. Thank you so much for your lessons. They are very very helpful.
I got a question on how do you count the notes in your head. For example you want to find the 6th note of G major. Do you spell the letters in your head and then apply it to guitar or do you visualize the guitar fret board and that gives you the answer?

Yuriy
Germany

12.16.09

Hey Yuriy, GREAT QUESTION! What I actually did first was to memorize the sharps or flats of all keys. Then I tend to use intervals to find the individual notes within a key quickly without having to count up from the root. Just study your 2nds, 3rds, 4ths, 5ths, 6ths and 7ths really well and you will instantly be able to find the proper interval that you need. For instance, if I am playing in A major and find myself in the F region of the fretboard I know instantly that F is the 6th of A and because I know every sharp and flat within a key I know to make it an F#.

It may sound like a lot of work but it really does become automatic and very easy to figure almost instantly.

Hope this helps!! Carl.

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